Wow this was a well written, interesting, intriguing, and, in part, hilarious response....thank you. If we're speaking in broad generalities, I don't think anyone can dispute the following points I hear you making: 1. The universe of very attractive, well-educated, wealthy, men and women is extremely small with average guys getting close to zero attention on dating apps and in real life. 2. This is difficult to articulate but it's usually the woman who decide when sex is going to happen and men are essentially auditioning in front of them until the woman makes that decision. It is true that average looking, poor, uneducated men and women still do date, have sex and get married, but your point is valid, they have to work a lot harder and sometimes have resentment that they had to work their asses off to get there, as your Velma, Fred, and Shaggy analogy illustrates. 3. In terms of the incel philosophy "Alpha Fux, Beta Bux" that sums it up on a bumper sticker. And is factually true. I guess where I diverge is what to do about it. When you say we should avoid a world where women date and have sex when their young, begs the question.....How is this accomplished?...surely you're not suggesting women wear chastity belts like the dark ages. The fact that only the most attractive men get to have sex with tons of women because they fall literally into their laps is grotesquely unfair but women tend to be attracted to a few distinct types (tall, dark, handsome, physically fit...) and there's nothing average looking guys can do about that. As an average looking guy myself I've had to rely on my sense of humor, intelligence, and wit to attract women and have done so with mixed results. Thanks again for your comments, I greatly appreciate it!